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"Narcissism Up In College Students; The Goal Is To Keep Them In ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 11:49:30

The authors offer a helpful analogy: if the average student in the 1980s scored in the 50th percentile for narcissism then the average 2006 college student scored in the 65th percentile-- 2/3 of 2006 college kids are above the 1980 mean for narcissism. Some interesting findings:the college students scored the same level of narcissism as a study of 200 celebrities. (more on that later.)Women's scores rose more rapidly than men's. In 1992 the SD between men and women was 0.45 (men higher); in 2006 it was 0.15. II. But not everyone agrees. ,disbelieving the above study (apparently even before it had beenpublished) investigates their own 25000+ gigantic sample of UC Davisand UC Berkeley students and found that scores on theNPI and their own measures of narcissism were relatively stable. Ishould mention here that the NPI measures more of the extroverted,"self-enhancing" kind of narcissism because that's important for understanding why this result is probably wrong: 40% of UC students are Asian vs. 6%in the rest of American colleges. I hope this doesn't require any explanation. III. What do Twenge et al say is the consequence of all this narcissism? They have more trouble explaining the other.. associations: crime is down; volunteerism is up. But to me these are hardly inconsistent with narcissism. Narcissism doesn't mean you're bad just that you think you're the main character in your own movie. Maybe that movie is about a woman who works for a non-profit but manages to date the President. But the authors can't explain why narcissism is on the rise and they point to the usual suspects: Schools and media: "Children in some preschools sing a song with the lyrics. "I amspecial/I am special/Look at me..." and many television shows forchildren emphasize positive self-feelings and specialness." Technology: "Devices such as iPods and Tivo allow people to listen to music andwatch television in their own individual ways and websites such asMySpace and YouTube (whose slogan is "Broadcast yourself") permitself-promotion far beyond that allowed by traditional media. Thesetrends motivated Time magazine to declare that the 2006 Person of the Year was "You," complete with a mirror on the cover." But all that's just the consequence not the cause. Look at the above chart and note the upswing after 1990. I don't know what caused those kids to be more narcissistic than the 80s kids but I do know what happened to those 90s kids after college: they became adults. And they became the custodians of the world and they demanded entertainment that suited them. Music movies internet technology-- all that was aimed at not the next group of college kids. Unfortunately for the next college kids there was nothing else to watch. The 30 year old in 2000 wanted to watch Survivor and The Bachelor so everyone had to watch Survivor and The Bachelor and it's changed cognition: even kids who have never watched those shows still uses the phrase "voted off" and "immunity." And the 35 year old in 2005 became a parent and that parent wanted school vouchers and great healthcare but also lower taxes and to be able to eat out at restaurants once a week. ('The kids are with my mother.") Those parents want easy credit and a bigger house. This trend is going to continue frankly until we either have a major recession war or my generation dies. It's funny to me and by funny I mean I dropped all my cyanide capsules that Allan Bloom and all the other conservative culture war guys from the 80s never bothered to follow up on the kids they thought were such idiots such-- narcissists. Did they expect they would all die sucked into their own skulls by the gravity as their brains went brown dwarf? Yet here they are walking around like zombies apathetically pathetically pathologically confident and cynical ironic and happy yet hungry and restless just the same. It's like they never aged past 25. You can't blame todays teens and college kids for being narcissists. They're doing exactly what they were trained to do are being told to do what they saw done by us. (You're reading it.)-----Diggs and Reddits and donations appreciated. Do you want a telethon? Is that what you want? If their lifespan is prolonged indefinitely by science? If the technological singularity comes? (well that's just as big a change) My personal excuse for never aging past 25 is being 24. And I've known there's nothing on TV for awhile. Hence the internet and books. If those who hate narcissism must turn elsewhere for entertainment might they encourage genuine personalities where they turn? Especially since the internet is so filled with two way communication. But if your generation is hardwired for one way communication no wonder TV panders to monopolize the captive audience. Not sure that the use of the term "voted off" is an indicator of anything. I still use "$64,000 question" to refer to a salient query and that show went off the air over a decade before I was born. Of course at that time there wasn't a whole lot on TV so it was easier for centralized media to have a mass effect on culture and language. Everybody watched the same thing because that was all there was. But I don't think you can have it both ways. You can't cite both the fragmenting of media (iPods. YouTube etc.) and the occasional mass-media phenomenon that still happens (Survivor) as evidence for narcissism. Well. I guess you can but at that point you're a Calvinist. ("You can and you can't you will and you won't you're damned if you do...") Stick with the hard data. It's interesting enough without embellishment. I should mention here that the NPI measures more of the extroverted. "self-enhancing" kind of narcissism because that's important for understanding why this result is probably wrong: 40% of UC students are Asian vs. 6% in the rest of American colleges. I hope this doesn't require any explanation. Sorry but this really does require an explanation. That is.. some sort of empirical as opposed to anecdotal elucidation. I'm pretty familiar with some of our disneyesque racial and cultural stereotypes but I'm sure there's some verifiable research which goes beyond such silliness. Indeed your elaboration on this point would probably keep others from erroneously jumping to conclusions. About twenty years ago. James Masterson proposed that there exists a more subtle variety of NPD. It is not the familiar extroverted. I-am-a-celebrity NPD. Masterson termed it 'closet narcissism'. In this type of NPD you grew up as a child with one or two NPD parents already hogging the limelight. So you didnt get to exercise age appropriate grandiosity. Instead a child in this predicament disowns his or her true self (or at least disowns some portions of his or her true self) and gets some parental nurture by mirroring the NPD parents. So the child in this predicament grows up as a sort of lackey entourage member (my term not Dr. Masterson's) servicing and stroking the parents' mirror-hunger. So someone in this predicament might grow up rather mousy self effacing but its not from genuine humility but from having to distort oneself into holding up a mirror and providing supplies to one or more adult caregivers who were children in adult bodies. Someone in this predicament may not grow up as a flamboyant narcissist but may go through life mirroring and enabling other more flamboyant NPD types. They may be talented get good gradesand degrees to please the parents but end up in the entourages of more overt NPD types. And these followers with closet narcissism might be the ones to commit crimes in loyalty to their leaders. Look at Enron. So if this catagory of 'closet narcissism' has been recognized as a valid subtype of NPD (I read this 20 years ago and this may be a concept that never panned out) if closet narcissism has been recognized as a useful subcatagory for NPD would tests such as NPI pick it up? I have a 15yo who is nothing like this. More importantly while I write this. I also have a 23yo music teacher downstairs. He runs three or four businesses. He teaches a wide variety of students. He has a girlfriend. He's a performer so I'm sure he has plenty of healthy narcissism in his make-up but he is a totally functioning participatory adult in the world. There are PLENTY of young adults around like him. I find them somewhat cut off from tradition and culture; they live in a flat and mysterious world; they're easily swayed by demogogues and they lack historical perspective. But they're not like the people you're describing. I know them too. I know what you're talking about. But there are other things happening in the culture and you can unplug from the bad stuff and plug into the good stuff at any time. It's not even hard. Before the internet it was hard. Is such narcissism not self-limiting? Everyone when they're young has a glorious ideal of themself and what they'll accomplish. Few youth strive to be the establishment. Usually eventually the real world does a good job of beating them down and tempering their expectations. It's hard to imagine you're Paris Hilton when you've been making photocopies and filing reports for 5 years. Are the youth of today so different? I look at the 60s and my jaw drops at the sheer idealistic self-indulgent craziness of it all. I can't fathom how disruptive and alien 60s youth culture must have been following the staid 50s. As those kids aged they've at least gotten in line though not without subjecting us to drek like "The Big Chill."

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"Math requirements for UC colleges?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 14:50:32

you don't be to take calculus but I would recommend it. As long as your major isn't math or science related you should be ok without calculus but it would help your application If you be to take calculus and you're worried about it consider getting a tutor to back up you through it. Hmmm…depends on what you major will be. Given the enumerate you undergo provided sometimes AP Stats in the senior year might be accepted. Talk with your counselor. If you did well in pre-calc you may prepared to handle calculus. We recommended that our daughter take stats in her senior year for the UC because she was not going into a science field and pre-calc was a contend for her. She is going into the social sciences where statistics ordain be useful to her. By the way she got into the UC school she wanted. Great question … your educate counselor can help you make the right decision for your situation. Mathematics – 3 years required. 4 years recommendedThree years of college-preparatory mathematics that consider the topics covered in elementary and advanced algebra and two- and three-dimensional geometry. Approved integrated math courses may be used to complete part or all of this requirement as may math courses taken in the seventh and eighth grades that your high school accepts as equivalent to its own math courses. Whether or not you ordain be it to get into a UC depends on the major. I do recommend taking calculus in high school (and getting a good grade in it) because it will improve your chances of getting into the UC of your choice. Math requirements are met beginning with Algebra 1; so if you undergo already taken Algebra 1 in 8th grade you undergo completed the recommended 4 years of of math. Depending on which UC campuses you are interested in applying it may be prudent to take 5th year of math; you will be competing with numerous other overachieving students.

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"Rent Correction from previous post: Colleges at Larue" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-27 19:18:00

contract Correction from previous affix: Colleges at Larue Yup you were correct. The contract for a large shared dwell is going to be $415 and yes the rent has also gone up this year. Any one interested? If you be people to be interested you may try not using a picture of yourself with your post. Especially if in said conceive of you are wearing a t-shirt with a vest and a driving cap while smoking a hookah. Be more anonymous.

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"Want to live in the Colleges in Winter?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-17 14:35:39

Want to live in the Colleges in pass? This is a heads up folks. I'm going abroad after fall accommodate and my two house mates will be looking to sight a replacement. We're talking the Colleges here. Hot Dog!It's a two bed two clean you'd be sharing a dwell with a really freaken cool guy and the rent is going to be roughly $460. mm. I'll double analyse the rent seeing as how everyone is in agreement that 460 is much too much. Internet is remove and i will find out about the other utilities. Also just curious to anyone who can venture a guess: 'sex cooking homework help'? I convey yeah that sounds all well and good but... 2bd2bath: rent $1380; one-half rent is $690 and one-third rent is $460. Since this is the generally the be for sharing a dwell it seems fair though expensive. that is a false statement... unless you consider 690 to be almost as much as 1000 or more to have your own room (the expected rent for your own dwell in a decent location in sb) no the room with two populate is significantly larger than the other and has its own bathroom and consume attached.

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"Attn: College Frosh & Sophs: Access to classes and Class Sizes?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-23 15:21:47

accept to College Discussion at College Confidential the Web's leading discussion forum for college admissions financial aid. SAT prep and much more! You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited find to view most discussions and find our other features. By joining our free community you ordain undergo find to affix topics communicate privately with other members (PM) respond to polls etc. Registration is fast simple and absolutely free so please. ! If you undergo any problems with the registration affect or your account login please. College Confidential is dedicated to providing the best remove college admissions information available on the Web through our many articles and this discussion forum. For those of you who wish more personal advising. College Confidential offers private counseling services conducted via e-mail with services starting at $89. Counseling is conducted by our Director of Counseling Dave cull co-author of Among the key factors that some students be at in selecting a college is their ability to find the classes that they want early in their undergraduate experience. A second important consideration is how big the classes will be in the freshman and sophomore years. For those currently attending college or have solid enjoin knowledge of what is going on at various colleges gratify weigh in on your experiences with getting the classes you wanted and how big or small the categorise sizes are. For reference sake here are the USWNR rankings of Top 50 national universities and the Top 20 LACs and their % of classes under 20 students: Rank,% of classes under 20 students NATIONAL UNIVERSITIES 1,76%Yale 2,75%Caltech 3,74%U Penn 3,74%Northwestern 5,73%Stanford 5,73%Duke 5,73%Wash U 8,72%Princeton 8,72%U Chicago 8,72%Tufts 11,71%Columbia 12,69%Harvard 13,68%Brown 14,67%Vanderbilt 15,66%Johns Hopkins 15,66%Emory 15,66%Carnegie Mellon 15,66%Lehigh 15,66%Syracuse 20,64%Dartmouth 21,63%Brandeis 21,62%Rice 21,62%USC 21,62%U Rochester 25,61%MIT 25,61%UC Berkeley 27,60%Cornell 28,59%NYU 29,58%Georgetown 29,58%Case Western 31,57%Wake plant 31,57%Tulane 33,55%Notre Dame 34,54%UCLA 35,50%UC Santa Barbara 36,49%U Virginia 37,47%U North Carolina 37,47%W&M 39,45%U Michigan 40,44%UC Irvine 41,43%U Wisconsin 41,43%UCSD 43,42%Georgia Tech 43,42%Rensselaer 45,39%Boston Coll 45,39%U Florida 47,37%U Illinois 48,36%U Washington 49,35%U Texas 50,34%UC Davis 51,30%Penn State LACs 1,79%Claremont McK 2,77%Hamilton 3,76%Swarthmore 4,75%Williams 4,75%Haverford 6,73%Pomona 7,72%Davidson 8,71%Oberlin 9,70%Middlebury 9,70%Smith 11,69%Vassar 12,68%Amherst 12,68%W&L 12,66%Grinnell 15,64%Wellesley 15,64%Carleton 15,64%Bowdoin 15,64%Wesleyan 19,63%Colgate 20,62%Harvey Mudd 21,53%US Naval Acad At my school (UChicago) class coat is largely dependent on a) what you're studying b) how it's presented (lecture or discussion) and c) what level you're studying at. For example intro to Economics is a "big" lecture class-- in this context. "big" is 150 students intermediate-level econ courses are about 40 students while advanced-level courses are in the 20's and 30's. That said small classes are not difficult to find. Especially considering that many Chicago students are taking a lot of small discussion-based classes for core out the larger lecture-based econ classes are a welcome dress of pace. Anyway here was the way class sizes went for my first year as a prospective English major. I also added what level the leaders of the class were at. go: 1) 50 students (lecture continue of department) 2) 20 students (core out class discussion all but dissertation grad student who was fabulous) 3) 20 students (core categorise discussion assistant prof) Winter: 1) 20 students (core categorise discussion. ABD grad student) 2) 20 students (core out class discussion senior prof) 3) 20 students (core categorise discussion assistant prof) 4) 10 students (language class grad student) move: 1) 20 students (core out categorise discussion assistant prof) 2) 20 students (core class discussion assistant prof) 3) 20 students (history elective discussion senior prof) 4) 10 students (language class grad student) This go: 1) 50 students (instruct by senior prof with 17-person discussion sections by grad students) 2) 15 students (for the major discussion. ABD grad student) 3) 15 students (billed as a instruct assistant prof core class) 4) 33 students (lecture core categorise taught by a "lecturer") I'm a sophomore at Notre Dame and access to classes can be a bit difficult to get all of the approvals but the classes are generally kept under hold back. This semester my plan doesn't have any "large" classes: ECON Statistics with 36 students seminar with 11 Intro to Theology with 16 A Living contend categorise with 4 ECON with 25 and Italian with 12 students As a freshman the biggest class I had was Calculus 2 with 70 and change but then my Calculus 3 categorise was only 8. The other classes were generally capped at 19 or had.

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"UC Riverside Climbs to 15th on the Washington Monthly Ranking" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-17 13:52:20

RIVERSIDE. Calif. (www ucr edu) – UC Riverside climbed to 15th in the rankings of the nation’s universities and colleges published in the September issue of the Washington Monthly College Guide. The magazine compared 242 national universities for the analyse. Instead of looking at student SAT scores and grade-point averages the magazine’s editors asked. “What are colleges doing for the country? Are they engines of social mobility? Do they back up the idea of function to the country? Do they foster scientific and humanistic investigate?” When those questions were answered many of the schools listed at the top of the U. S. News and World Report rankings don’t rank as well and UC Riverside excels. One reason for the high ranking is the fact that UCR spends 51 percent of its federal bring home the bacon chew over funds on public service. "This ranking recognizes the excellent determine open in the University of California system as a whole but it especially shows the way UC Riverside has been successful in finding ways to support the needs of a wide variety of students," said UC Riverside Acting Chancellor Robert Grey. "The ranking looks at specific and measurable benefits to society. I’m happy to see this ranking because it reflects the hard bring home the bacon I see happening here on this campus." This is the third year of Washington Monthly’s College Guide which includes an analysis from the magazine’s editors:“If you’re looking then for information on which schools are the most selective or which have the nicest swimming pools the Washington Monthly College Rankings aren’t for you. But we wish they will be of some use—to students of modest means looking for colleges that will help them succeed; to alumni wanting to get a sense of their alma maters’ commitment to the public interest; or to elected officials trying to think of ways to get more hit for the public bucks they’re charged with spending on higher education.”

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"where should i apply?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-06 08:14:48

accept to College Discussion at College Confidential the Web's leading discussion forum for college admissions financial aid. SAT prep and much more! You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to believe most discussions and find our other features. By joining our free community you will have find to affix topics communicate privately with other members (PM) respond to polls etc. Registration is fast simple and absolutely remove so gratify. ! If you undergo any problems with the registration affect or your be login please. College Confidential is dedicated to providing the best free college admissions information available on the Web through our many articles and this discussion forum. For those of you who desire more personal advising. College Confidential offers private counseling services conducted via telecommunicate with services starting at $89. Counseling is conducted by our Director of Counseling Dave cull co-author of and our other outstanding associates. See for more information. This accept communicate goes away when you enter and log in! Male Asian Texas resident no bring home the bacon undergo 7ears of school orchestra not in any clubs/organizations GPA: 3.76 be: 287 of class of 1000 SAT: Math: 780. Reading: 570. Writing 570 :be of 1920 robably going to take it again in october Senior plan AP Biology AP Government AP Statistics Orchestra AP English Literature AP Calculus (BC) AP Micro Economics and because im not the brightest or most outgoing student i dont expect very good teacher recs i was wondering how important SAT2s are but i know some school dont require it. Thinking About Applying to..... UC Berkley UC San Diego UC LA UT Austin UT Dallas Texas Tech so yea.. how realistic are my choices? i really dont want to go to a crappy community college or something so iono it would help a lot of someone could advise some colleges? or possible bunco term plans for making my resume/application exceed possibly furnish me some tips on what i should cerebrate on more? maybe taking ACT? =/ The UCS are gonna be hard cus your OOS you not being in any clubs REALLY REALLY hurts your chances consdering that your SAT score is not very good SAT IIs: none? thats really not good change surface if some schools dont require (which most good ones do) its exceed to show that youre specialized in a topic All the UC's = high reach(perhaps arrive if youre lucky) UT/TT: no idea UC's are not going to be happening at least the ones you're listing. It might be so very contrary to the Asian belief system but CC really will make your prospects exceed for the instate schools you're looking at. EC's simply aren't enough. I wouldn't change surface direct out much wish for UT Austin unless you're in the guarantee thing. TT I have no idea but I don't see it on the top 50 in USNWR so I guess its your safety and the only one you reasonably undergo a chance at. UCs: Big arrive (OOS low SAT low GPA no ECs) since you are not top 10% in your educate,UT austin is not easy to get in. But I comfort suggest that you should apply for UT and A&M since you are Texas resident. how about baylor,trinity,rice? First think about affordability. Can you drop public out of state places and private places? You be to desire large public schools but the UCs are too hard to get into. Look at some of the big ones that accept a lot of people- Indiana U. Michigan express. Arizona express. Ohio U. Penn State. If you desire California be at Occidental College. Many liberal arts colleges need males and be people who are good in math. They also give money. Your background is not terrible- there are plenty of places for you.

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